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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63936</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replies to Belinda:

&lt;i&gt;My belief is that our morality is based solely on our need to survive. Derived by our conscience and is a learned behaviour and absolutely nothing to do with a divine plan.&lt;/i&gt;

Thus Hilter&#039;s survival of the fittest is justified.  You of course cannot complain about the USA invading Iraq as that is just more BIG guy beating up small guy. Just like Tom cats, some men feel the need to rape, others to murder.  At least you are consistent with your darwinian worldview!

&lt;i&gt;A question for you:
How do you explain someone who claims they are a true believer in god and lives by the bible and at the same time are involved in illegal and or immoral behaviour?
At what point is it o.k to make your own rules?&lt;/i&gt;

They are hypocrites, as all us Christians are to some extent.  That is why we need the grace of God because we cannot make it on our own merits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replies to Belinda:</p>
<p><i>My belief is that our morality is based solely on our need to survive. Derived by our conscience and is a learned behaviour and absolutely nothing to do with a divine plan.</i></p>
<p>Thus Hilter&#8217;s survival of the fittest is justified.  You of course cannot complain about the USA invading Iraq as that is just more BIG guy beating up small guy. Just like Tom cats, some men feel the need to rape, others to murder.  At least you are consistent with your darwinian worldview!</p>
<p><i>A question for you:<br />
How do you explain someone who claims they are a true believer in god and lives by the bible and at the same time are involved in illegal and or immoral behaviour?<br />
At what point is it o.k to make your own rules?</i></p>
<p>They are hypocrites, as all us Christians are to some extent.  That is why we need the grace of God because we cannot make it on our own merits.</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63906</link>
		<dc:creator>Belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Whyman, for some reason my comment hasn&#039;t been posted so I refuse to continue a debate when the playing field is not even. With missing comments it would not be an honest representation of my opinions.   I guess that could be construed as inconsistent as christ as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Whyman, for some reason my comment hasn&#8217;t been posted so I refuse to continue a debate when the playing field is not even. With missing comments it would not be an honest representation of my opinions.   I guess that could be construed as inconsistent as christ as well?</p>
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		<title>By: The Whyman</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63643</link>
		<dc:creator>The Whyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belinda..you completely misses the irony: Such actions would be UnChristian as it is inconsistent with Christ. (Still await proof that it was by the way) 
However it would no be inconsistent with atheistic individuals who are moral parasites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belinda..you completely misses the irony: Such actions would be UnChristian as it is inconsistent with Christ. (Still await proof that it was by the way)<br />
However it would no be inconsistent with atheistic individuals who are moral parasites.</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63636</link>
		<dc:creator>Belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My belief is that our morality is based solely on our need to survive. Derived by our conscience and is a learned behaviour and absolutely nothing to do with a divine plan.

A question for you:
How do you explain someone who claims they are a true believer in god and lives by the bible and at the same time are involved in illegal and or immoral behaviour?
At what point is it o.k to make your own rules?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My belief is that our morality is based solely on our need to survive. Derived by our conscience and is a learned behaviour and absolutely nothing to do with a divine plan.</p>
<p>A question for you:<br />
How do you explain someone who claims they are a true believer in god and lives by the bible and at the same time are involved in illegal and or immoral behaviour?<br />
At what point is it o.k to make your own rules?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63607</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belinda, do you believe that we are just evolved animals?  Do you believe that animals are not more that highly complex arrangements of atoms and molecules? Given the simple answers to these questions, where then does morality come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belinda, do you believe that we are just evolved animals?  Do you believe that animals are not more that highly complex arrangements of atoms and molecules? Given the simple answers to these questions, where then does morality come from?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63606</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawkins of course would demand evidence -- so where is yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawkins of course would demand evidence &#8212; so where is yours?</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63517</link>
		<dc:creator>Belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is there some standard of right &amp; wrong that makes a cyber attack like this “wrong?” If so, where does such a standard come from?&quot;

That is an epic fail.  Maybe your parents didn&#039;t teach you right and wrong?  Most people get it.  

You grow lovely flowers that I step on purposely and ruin - WRONG.
I help you in the garden and comment on you gardening skills - RIGHT.

Are you getting it now?  Destroying peoples creations because you don&#039;t like what they are saying is aggressive and mind shrinking behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is there some standard of right &amp; wrong that makes a cyber attack like this “wrong?” If so, where does such a standard come from?&#8221;</p>
<p>That is an epic fail.  Maybe your parents didn&#8217;t teach you right and wrong?  Most people get it.  </p>
<p>You grow lovely flowers that I step on purposely and ruin &#8211; WRONG.<br />
I help you in the garden and comment on you gardening skills &#8211; RIGHT.</p>
<p>Are you getting it now?  Destroying peoples creations because you don&#8217;t like what they are saying is aggressive and mind shrinking behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be ignorant to assume the perpetrators were not Christian.  It is the work of religious fanaticism, performed by deluded people who have been brainwashed by the myth of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be ignorant to assume the perpetrators were not Christian.  It is the work of religious fanaticism, performed by deluded people who have been brainwashed by the myth of God.</p>
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		<title>By: The Whyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Whyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes indeed Jon, it would be very un Christian if it were established that the perpetrators of the hack were Christian. But would it be unatheistic? 

Incidentally, claiming that &quot;religious&quot; people are intolerant of those who have different beliefs is in itself an intolerant statement. ie self defeating.
Relativism in work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed Jon, it would be very un Christian if it were established that the perpetrators of the hack were Christian. But would it be unatheistic? </p>
<p>Incidentally, claiming that &#8220;religious&#8221; people are intolerant of those who have different beliefs is in itself an intolerant statement. ie self defeating.<br />
Relativism in work.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or perhaps this one Jon?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/who_are_the_real_proponents_of.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/who_are_the_real_proponents_of.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps this one Jon?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/who_are_the_real_proponents_of.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/who_are_the_real_proponents_of.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-63196</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you provide such an example of intolerance Jon?  Specifix please...

Are you referring to this Jon: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/darwinists_launch_cyber_attack.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/darwinists_launch_cyber_attack.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you provide such an example of intolerance Jon?  Specifix please&#8230;</p>
<p>Are you referring to this Jon: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/darwinists_launch_cyber_attack.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10/darwinists_launch_cyber_attack.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacking someone&#039;s website because you do not agree with their views?  How very unchristian.  Can someone explain to me why religious people are so intolerant of others who don&#039;t share the same beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attacking someone&#8217;s website because you do not agree with their views?  How very unchristian.  Can someone explain to me why religious people are so intolerant of others who don&#8217;t share the same beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Man of Spin</title>
		<link>http://christiannews.co.nz/2009/atheist-websites-hit-by-mutating-cyber-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-62485</link>
		<dc:creator>Man of Spin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks 4 the info Peter.  If I was able, I would come to the conference too.  Sounds like a lot of fun.  

Hey Peter -- life is short, and for the atheist ultimately meaningless -- so can I suggest that you just relax and enjoy the humor (well, humor is ultimately just matter in motion, and so would your enjoyment of it be... ) re the 3 points :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks 4 the info Peter.  If I was able, I would come to the conference too.  Sounds like a lot of fun.  </p>
<p>Hey Peter &#8212; life is short, and for the atheist ultimately meaningless &#8212; so can I suggest that you just relax and enjoy the humor (well, humor is ultimately just matter in motion, and so would your enjoyment of it be&#8230; ) re the 3 points <img src='http://christiannews.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wardle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Wardle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were actually 2 websites affected by thie DDoS attack. So an attack it was indeed. The 2 sites were Atheist Foundation and Atheist Convention websites.
The Atheist Foundation of Australia have been promoting the Atheist Convention scheduled for March next year. Ticket sales have exceeded all expectations with over 1000 tickets sold within 3 weeks. All Gold Pass tickets have sold out.
By the way. Those 3 points were not GOOD points at all. They use infantile logic and are clearly phrased to titillate the ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were actually 2 websites affected by thie DDoS attack. So an attack it was indeed. The 2 sites were Atheist Foundation and Atheist Convention websites.<br />
The Atheist Foundation of Australia have been promoting the Atheist Convention scheduled for March next year. Ticket sales have exceeded all expectations with over 1000 tickets sold within 3 weeks. All Gold Pass tickets have sold out.<br />
By the way. Those 3 points were not GOOD points at all. They use infantile logic and are clearly phrased to titillate the ignorant.</p>
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