William Lane Craig New Zealand Tour 2008
Sunday 8th June
Arrive in NZ
Monday 9th June
Day off in Wellington
Tuesday 10 June
Wellington, Lunchtime Q&A session with Christian Academics (12pm-1pm).
Wellington, Public Lecture, “Do we still need God in a self-sufficient age?” (7pm).
Wednesday 11- Saturday 14 June
Wellington, Victoria University, Conference: “Molinism: The Contemporary Debate“.
Saturday 14 June
Live Interview on Radio NZ National with Kim Hill (8.15am).
Sunday 15 June
Palmerston North, “A Perfectly Reasonable Faith”, Two Combined Morning Church Services (additional details here) (Central Baptist Church and Crossroads) (9am and 10:45am). Cost = FREE.
Palmerston North, Evening Church Service: “Does suffering disprove existence of a good and powerful God?“, Christian Community Church (map) (7pm-8:30pm). Cost = FREE.
Monday 16 June- AUCKLAND
Auckland, “A Critical Response to Richard Dawkins“, Lecture at LR1, Bible College on New Zealand, 80 Central Park Drive, Henderson (7pm).
Tuesday 17 June – AUCKLAND
Auckland, Debate with Bill Cooke, President of NZARH at Auckland University (7pm).
Auckland, Philosophy Department Seminar (pending).
Wednesday 18 June – TAURANGA
Tauranga, “Christian Apologetics: Who needs it?” Bethlehem Community Church Centre, 183 Moffat Road (1pm-3pm).
Tauranga, “Is God a Delusion?“, Bethlehem Community Church Centre, 183 Moffat Road (7pm).
Thursday 19 June – PALMERSTON NORTH
Palmerston North, “Is God a Delusion?” - a public debate between Bill Cooke, vice president of the NZ Assoc. of Rationalists and Humanists, and William Lane Craig. The Regent Theatre on Broadway, Outreach at Town Hall (7pm-8:45pm). Cost = FREE.
Friday 20 June – PALMERSTON NORTH
Palmerston North, “Creation or Coincidence: The biggest question?”, a public lecture at the Russell Room at Wharerata at Massey University, (12:10pm-1:30pm). Cost = FREE.
Friday 20 June (7:30pm-9pm) – PALMERSTON NORTH
Palmerston North, “Who was Jesus of Nazareth?”, An evening of conversation and public outreach service with William Lane Craig, St. Albans Church, 339 Albert Street, Palmerston North. Cost = FREE.
I would go and view him talking about molinism except that, after reading up about it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molinism)
it seems to be ridiculously nonsensical obfuscatory sleight of hand avoidance of the contradiction of omniscience vs. free will. It solves NOTHING!
Contradiction, or paradox?
If ‘paradox’ is only an apparent contradition then the difference is irrelevant since we are dealing with a putative scenario.
Can anyone tell me where and what time the 2 Auckland debates are happening on Monday, June 16? Are the debates open to the public or are tickets for sale perhaps?
Thanks!
Hi Emile. As far as I know they are free and open to all. We are trying to get more info. Keep an eye on this website for updates
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LOL there seems to be a few contradictory dates going on with the flyer and elsewhere. The flyer says Thursday June 19. On this thread as well it says the 19th.
On the pdf flyer that you have posted on the “William Lane Craig Composite Poster” thread it says Tuesday the 17th. On the Matt and Madeleine Flannagan blog it says Tuesday the 17th as well. If someone could clear up the confusion of whether it’s on Tuesday (17th) or Thursday (19th) that would be great (not so much for me, but for the people these flyers will be advertised to). Thanks
Oh and I’m referring to the debate between Craig and Cooke if you’re wondering what I’m talking about.
Thanks. Will look into these asap.
CN.
Ok nevermind. I was under the impression that there was only ONE debate between Craig and Cooke. Apparently there are two between them on Tuesday and Thursday on the same topic (which is a little unusual for Craig to do but cool anyways). Hey if one of them loses the debate on the one day, they can make up for it on the next day
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I’d love to be able to make it up to one of the North Island events (I’m in Dunedin). What a pity the trip couldn’t be longer. There was some demand down here, but the decision was made to fit in the smaller centres up North, rather than the two major centres down South.
And Simon, even if Molinism isn’t true, it’s hardly contradictory. I suspect taking a *slightly* longer time to form an opinion might be a wise move. Wikipedia is helpful of course, but reading one wiki article is not a substitute for becoming familiar with a position.
“Because God has middle knowledge, He knows what an agent will freely do in a particular situation. So, agent A, when placed in circumstance C, will freely choose option X over option Y. Thus, if God wanted to accomplish X, all God would do is, using his middle knowledge, actualize the world in which A was placed in C, and A would freely choose X. God retains an element of providence without nullifying A’s choice and God’s purpose (the actualization of X) is fulfilled.” -Wikipedia
(I am probably going to hear him next tuesday) The above, which is at the core of the omniscience vs. free will problem, simply restates that God knows what choice I’m going to make. It merely obfuscates it by throwing in situation C’s. There is no solution here: when someone knows what choice someone else will make, they didn’t really have a choice. Period.
Does anyone know where the Wellington evening lecture is being held, i can’t find any information on it anywhere – even Bill Craigs staff don’t know.
Ramsey House, 8 Kelburn Parade(Anglican Chaplancy VUW) next Tuesday (10 June), at 12 noon.
That’s the info I’ve been given.
I hear the evening lecture on Tuesday is to be at Central Baptist Church in Boulcott St. I don’t know information on this was so late getting out.
Todd
Todd, the organization in Wellington is, let’s say, rather poor. Let us know how the meeting went if you make it there.
CN
Todd. Yes he is speaking at Central Baptist tonight (Wed). As told to us on Tue midday.
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